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Re: NS3

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En KU @33°E (Eutelsat 33D test)

11111 11153 11580 H 3705 3/5 QPSK

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- Winegard 3.10m C-Band Ext
- CM PFA 3.10m C-Band
- CM 2.40m C/KU
- Laminas 1.80m C/KU
- 2 X CM 1.80m KU/Full KA/X/C
- TBS 5925 6522 6983
- DTA2137C
- NS3/NS4
- ADV-6000 S
- 2X SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS
- LNB Changeur
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
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Re: NS3

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Hello, just registered to the board. I understand french but I don't speak and write in your language.... sorry. Do you know if EBU uses NS3 frequencies other than well known 11075 at 10E? I heard more broadcasters uses NS3 for custom feeds (maybe in Italy) but no more informations here. Thanks.
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Hi Feedman and welcome to this board.

There are " plenty"of frequencies in NS3, yes few from Italian broadcasters, also RRsat use NS3 for some of their TX (few at 46°E in c band).

EBU use NS3 at 10°E, 3°W (ku and C) 55.5°W and sometimes at 47,5°W but this in NS3 AND BISS for most of the time.

But satellite dx and hunting for 2016 will start shortly...

There are probably more, this is what is so interesting in this hobby, not for watching but to find.

Bonjour Feedman, bienvenue sur ce forum.
Il y a pas mal de frequences en NS3, effectivement quelques unes d'italie, RRSat utilise aussi le NS3 (46°E bande C)
EBU utilise le NS3 a 10°E, 3°W (C et KU), 55.5°W et 47.5°W de temps en temps, mais non seulement c est du NS3 mais en plus c est en BISS la plupart du temps.

Il y a probablement encore plein de frequnces a decouvrir, c est ce qui fait le charme de notre passion, pas tant d regarder mais surtout de trouver.

Une nouvelle année de dx satellite commence sous peu.
- Winegard 3.10m C-Band Ext
- CM PFA 3.10m C-Band
- CM 2.40m C/KU
- Laminas 1.80m C/KU
- 2 X CM 1.80m KU/Full KA/X/C
- TBS 5925 6522 6983
- DTA2137C
- NS3/NS4
- ADV-6000 S
- 2X SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS
- LNB Changeur
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
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Thank you Feedsat, yes main play of a feedhunter is finding new satellites, new frequencies, new feeds..... I didn't know about NS3 broadcasting at 3 West (new orbital position from just few weeks). I'm in this hobby from 1989 (but radio amateur from early 80s) and feeds always has been my main reason for playing with satellite. Do you know which orbital position is used for NS3 italian feeds? Thank you again, very good board!
PS: If you need, please translate my posts in french for other users, unfortunately I'm not able to do that.
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Feedman a écrit :Thank you Feedsat, yes main play of a feedhunter is finding new satellites, new frequencies, new feeds..... I didn't know about NS3 broadcasting at 3 West (new orbital position from just few weeks). I'm in this hobby from 1989 (but radio amateur from early 80s) and feeds always has been my main reason for playing with satellite. Do you know which orbital position is used for NS3 italian feeds? Thank you again, very good board!
PS: If you need, please translate my posts in french for other users, unfortunately I'm not able to do that.
You've right, 3w is a new position since September used by ABS.

It's not necessary to translate your post because ns3 is very specific.

From where do you come from?

Welcome on the board !
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I'm near Milan.
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Feedman a écrit :I'm near Milan.
Scusami per il mio italiano,sii il benvenuto sul forum.

il NS3 é usato bene dai provider italiani allo scopo di risparmiare la larghezza di banda.

l'altro uso di NS3 è di rendere non possibile la ricezione senza appropriato ricevitore

il problema (o il vantaggio per i titolari dei diritti) é il prezzo del ricevitore, diverse migliaia di euro nel nuovo stato

buonasera
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Oh, you speak many languages.... CONGRATULATION for your very good italian! Really! Yes I know about NS3.... the receiver is very expensive, too expensive! As I said, I just heard about usage of NS3 by italian broadcasters, but I don't know on which satellite. Possibly 5 or 8 West?
PS: This is a very good board for feedhunters and satellite technical information in general, and I will continue visiting and browsing here. Thanks.
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Feedman a écrit :Oh, you speak many languages.... CONGRATULATION for your very good italian! Really! Yes I know about NS3.... the receiver is very expensive, too expensive! As I said, I just heard about usage of NS3 by italian broadcasters, but I don't know on which satellite. Possibly 5 or 8 West?
PS: This is a very good board for feedhunters and satellite technical information in general, and I will continue visiting and browsing here. Thanks.
Grazie, ma non lo parlo con il livello che vorrei.
5° e 8° ovest non sono molto utilizzati da Italiani per la trasmissione occasionale

Gli italiani usano normalmente più il 12,5 ° ovest, e meno spesso, il 36 ° est

Ma gli italiani sono forti per la banda KA, dove é possibile di fare il dvb-s2 senza costi eccessivi
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Re: NS3

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Finalement j'ai opté pour le modulateur, ASI iinput RF output (1000L band 45000 7/8)
Facile à mettre en oeuvre.

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27.5°W 3848 L par exemple

sur Dektec
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ou TBS

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Un autre outil (hard & soft) devrait arriver prochainement pour exploiter l'ASI mais ce sera sensiblement pareil je pense.
- Winegard 3.10m C-Band Ext
- CM PFA 3.10m C-Band
- CM 2.40m C/KU
- Laminas 1.80m C/KU
- 2 X CM 1.80m KU/Full KA/X/C
- TBS 5925 6522 6983
- DTA2137C
- NS3/NS4
- ADV-6000 S
- 2X SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS
- LNB Changeur
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
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à 27.5°W, 3848.5 à basculé en 32APSK avant un prochain changement...

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mais 3850.5 est verouillable en 16APSK
(NS2000 + 4T40 + TS Anlayser)

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- Winegard 3.10m C-Band Ext
- CM PFA 3.10m C-Band
- CM 2.40m C/KU
- Laminas 1.80m C/KU
- 2 X CM 1.80m KU/Full KA/X/C
- TBS 5925 6522 6983
- DTA2137C
- NS3/NS4
- ADV-6000 S
- 2X SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS
- LNB Changeur
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
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What about NS3 signals at 3 West? It seems EBU Hypermux is there, too. But this satellite is located in inclined orbit I believe. Any news? Thanks.
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Re: NS3

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Hello Feedman,

ABS3 is not an inclined satellite as you think.. and about NS3 I can't answer correctly, Feedsat is the right tooled expert. :wink:

Have a nice afternoon,
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Feedman a écrit :What about NS3 signals at 3 West? It seems EBU Hypermux is there, too. But this satellite is located in inclined orbit I believe. Any news? Thanks.
Yes, there is an Hypermux @ 3°W, it was the first service available on this satellite in KU
(Same hypermux at 10°E, 55.5°W, sometimes @ 47.5°W, and 100.5°E for Asia, etc)

Unfortunately, most of the contributions are encrypted ,about 12 HD services per Mux.
Less interesting than what you can expect.
- Winegard 3.10m C-Band Ext
- CM PFA 3.10m C-Band
- CM 2.40m C/KU
- Laminas 1.80m C/KU
- 2 X CM 1.80m KU/Full KA/X/C
- TBS 5925 6522 6983
- DTA2137C
- NS3/NS4
- ADV-6000 S
- 2X SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS
- LNB Changeur
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
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Un petit exmple de NS3 : Champions League capturée recement.

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- Winegard 3.10m C-Band Ext
- CM PFA 3.10m C-Band
- CM 2.40m C/KU
- Laminas 1.80m C/KU
- 2 X CM 1.80m KU/Full KA/X/C
- TBS 5925 6522 6983
- DTA2137C
- NS3/NS4
- ADV-6000 S
- 2X SMR1224EL
- ASC1 - RC2000C - EGIS
- LNB Changeur
- 76.5°E <> 65°W
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